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Originally Posted by rubecube
Okay, but society does treat them differently based on these characteristics and their experiences are different, so they should just shut up about it because that's not how it should be in your ideal world scenario?
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No. Where did I suggest this? If there is a difference in treatment between two people, there are two possibilities: there's either a good principled reason for it (for example, six year olds shouldn't be allowed to drive while thirty year olds should), or there isn't (for example, if male Safeway cashiers get paid X and female cashiers get paid Y). If there isn't, that's the basis for objecting to the difference in treatment: that there's no rationale or evidence to support it.
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Do you think you get the same fear of immintent death, terror, and the resulting PTSD from watching war movies as soldiers do from actually being in a warzone? Do you honestly think the 50 year-old male legislators are going to experience the same level of fear of an illegal abortion as a 15 year-old pregnant girl?
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No, I don't think that. Which is why I've just said that those experiences are relevant in individual cases. What's inaccurate is to ascribe them to people based on group identity, rather than individual experiences. It's also an error to assume that the relevant experience is being brought to bear on someone's opinion in a manner that's conducive to a more well-reasoned position, which might or might not be the case.
Seriously, I swear, we've talked about this several times. Why are we going over this ground again, except to further convince me of Haidt's hypotheses?