[Thunderball]

Originally Posted by troutman

there are facts to prove someone of that general description did exist

Where? People keep claiming this, but I have yet to see a reliable footnote or link to support this.

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...storical+jesus

What color was Jesus?

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...storical+jesus

Gospel according to Judas (my favorite thread here on this topic; Texcritic was very civil and thoughtful in his responses, and although I see things differently, it was an interesting discussion for me):

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...s+lake+grizzly

The best I could do in short notice was this site that compiles Tacitus, Josephus, Suetonius and Phlegon. I know its a religious website... the only thing I could find similar was atheist, attempting to debunk these guys using favorable translations. I did learn in class that there are Roman records of a Chrestus, Christus or something pertaining to a Jesus of Nazareth... it was a few years ago.

http://www.sowhataboutjesus.com/existed.php
http://www.creatingfutures.net/birth.html

Its really not important enough for me to spend hours scouring the U of C Online Journals for something more scholarly. Essentially, either you believe these guys, believe these guys and the Bible (even if it embellishes big time) or you don't. I don't think these threads will really change anyone's minds. Kind of like the abortion debate. There's the Pro-Lifers, the Pro-Choice, and the rest that couldn't be bothered to take a stand. In this case, the Pro-Religious Jesus, the Pro-Historical Jesus, the Pro-Atheist crowd, and again, the rest that couldn't be bothered to take a stand.