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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Well if Oling thinks the alt-right is half the population plus some liberals then he clearly has zero idea what alt-right means.
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Actually if you read my posts, I have tried to make distinguish between alt-right, right-wing and even tried to clarify moderate-alt-right (i.e. what I would consider non-racists who supported the alternative right candidate Trump). I've said repeatedly that it was the right-wing media that was eating this up. You've tried to pigeonhole the entire population who didn't agree with the comments as "alt-right" and argued it was for "reasons." I.E. implying that anyone who didn't like the officers comments were racists, which is exactly the divisiveness that lead to a Trump victory. If you'll notice, I clearly hate Trump, and while it's easy to blame just the voters of his, the people who have tried to end any type of discussion by implying anyone who disagrees with them were racist are just as much at fault.
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Based on his misnterpretation of what happened along with his talking points (a white cop being racist to a white kid?), maybe the election of Trump has normalised the alt-right to the point where their little bubbles have gotten so bold that they actually think they're a big part of the pie, who knows.
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There's no misinterpretation. I believe, the officers said some stuff that should not have been said. It was politically motivated, and many (not just alt-right) believe it was racially motivated (i.e. if the races were reversed, the cops would not be referring to them as kids...and if you want to see who else believes that, just read the first page of this thread, Newt Gingrich, Reddit/CNN/ABC comment sections on the stories, Twitter, Fox News, Washington Post, New York Post). I'm not saying that this is the best of the best, but I am saying that many many many people took issue to what was said, not just a small group of white nationalist. Ironically, if you were to leave your little bubble, you would find that this isn't a small sect of the alt-right pushing this 'agenda.'
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
The negative reaction to this, especially considering the explanation afterwards, seems eerily similar to the regressive left and the very thing the alt-right was to rise against.
Essentially different sides of the same coin. Use the language we want, or pay your pound of flesh.
I think there's a place for considering language and being thoughtful about it, but as soon as you see a misstep and look for blood regardless of an explanation or an apology, it looks embarrassing.
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See that's the difference. You keep assuming it was a misstep. A mistake. A slip of the tongue. If you honestly can read what they say and believe that, then I completely see were you are coming from.
However, the officer didn't accidentally refer to them as kids and young adults. They didn't accidentally call it stupid decisions, and stupid ranting trying to make headlines, it wasn't a mistake that they said there was "no concrete evidence that it was a hate crime" or that they thought it was just "stupidity." As far as many people are concerned, this was making excuses, downplaying an incredibly important part of the crime. I think CliffFletcher hit the nail on the head with his second post in this thread about why they did it.
Again, all they had to do was say it was still being investigated or looked into. Anything else they said wasn't a slip of the tongue, it was intentionally. It was political (if even for a good cause). The police force should simply not be getting involved politically.