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Old 01-05-2017, 11:13 AM   #18
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher View Post
Individuals benefit and individuals suffer, mostly for reason that have nothing to do with race or gender. The notion that an impoverished, out of work white dude with a grade 10 education living in a trailer in the Appalachians has privilege over a black woman at Yale who is the daughter of a surgeon and a college professor is lunacy.

And marginalisation isn't all due to power structures controlled by the elite. Sub-cultures and individuals vary tremendously in their values and behaviours, and not all lead to healthy and prosperous lives. We all recognise that from looking around at people we know.

Treating people first and foremost as members of groups, not individuals, and trying to re-balance the outcomes of those groups is bewildering folly that can only lead to bitter conflict and violence. People have been warning about this for years, and it's appalling to see those warnings coming true.
I disagree. Marginalisation of minorities has had almost everything to do with power structures created and controlled by the elite. Treating people as individuals would be fine in theory, if they weren't deliberately marginalized as groups in the first place. The white supremacy status quo (yeah that is what it is, period. end of story.) is no longer cutting the mustard for people.

How can you make it all about individuals when it has been groups that have been purposely marginalized? That doesn't compute.
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