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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates
You make the mistake of seperating humans and environment as if they work independently from each other and even conflictingly aginst each other.
It seems you have the idea that environmentalists only care about flowers and not humans.
The realitiy is most of them are concerned about the environment because of the effect it has on our spouses, children and those around us.
For reasons other have already stated, there are important economic/human reasons to take care of the environment and severe economic/human consequences if we don't.
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They do work independently of each other --- thus the problem. We as humans do stuff that isnt' in synch with the environment and we have progressively tried to stop doing that where it is possible.
But ya know we have a society that is up and running and we can't just all go out and live on islands and live off the land. We have to balance it out -- Yep we are going to continue to pump oil and tear apart places like the Tar Sands till somebody figures out some other way to move around --Hydrogen or something else.
Yep we are going to keep on pulling coal out of the ground to keep ourselves warm among other things. We are going to keep on doing a whole lot of things. In the meantime yes we need to keep an eye on the longterm and make sure there is a longterm. But we don't need to sign idiotic pieces of crap like Kyoto when we have no legitimate options or affordable ones of implementing an accord like that.
And scare mongering enviro's are way too often too shrill to get their message across.