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Originally Posted by DiracSpike
but all these attempts to subvert democracy are getting ridiculous.
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The things you list aren't subverting democracy at all though.
Recounts are a good idea, I think they should be a staple of the system; every election a random set of counties or states should be selected for spot recounts. Not because the results are suspect, but to validate the processes. One doesn't have a backup procedure that's never tested, voting is even more important.
Look at the aborted Michigan recounts, there were a number of precincts that
could not be recounted. The tally from the computer did not match the number of ballots, and if they are even out by one then the precinct is by law "not recountable". That seems like the opposite of what should happen; if the computers and the physical count don't line up, then a recount should be mandatory, not declared impossible! I don't understand why that isn't bigger news.
The faithless electors thing won't change the outcome, but even if it did, that's the way the system is setup so it's hardly subversion to utilize a system the way it was designed. If anything maybe so much attention will finally prompt some change to a system that some thing is long overdue for it.
And Russia hacking the emails, the info from the intelligence communities, the recent statement from the CIA.. again not subverting democracy, rather highlighting an outside actor's attempts to subvert it. It's not just Democrats talking about it, Republicans are also saying things need to be looked at. Not because they want the election result to be overturned (I don't think anything short of a video with Trump and Putin talking about what Trump is supposed to do once elected would accomplish that), but because the obvious interference is something that should be a concern regardless of party affiliation.