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Old 11-28-2016, 06:07 PM   #2994
CaramonLS
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Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist View Post
Two things:

1) fake news is fake news. It's made up news. This isn't MSM vs other media. It's fake news. It's infowars and Breitbart and others. It's made up news. It's fictional news. You can't legitimize it by saying it's just not MSM

2) The reason for it's rise isn't MSM's fault. If there's one irritating thing out of all of this is the concerted effort from conspiracy theorists to lump hundreds of thousands of journalists as a single GROUP. People click on interesting stories. Real life grey complex stories aren't as attention grabbing as the Clinton's had people killed. You cannot compete with that. It's made up, but far more interesting. The rise of fake news is on the people. You cannot give idiocy of the general populace a pass all the time and scream "IF ONLY THE MSM COVETED THE CLINTON'S MURDERS AS WELL AS INFOWARS!" because that's the opposite of what they should be doing. The reason we don't have Walter Cronkite in 2016 is because people don't want that. End of story
We do have the Intercept though, which has really put out some high quality, well researched content.

I think you kind of made my point with #2.

The mainstream media has gone from innocent bystander to active participant in this - when you sink down to that level, you are going to lose credibility. These organizations had the high ground, but have seen that eroded in recent years.

I made a comment about the Pizzagate article earlier in this thread from the NYT. When you publish items under the title of "FACT CHECK", discuss very few facts and basically present a one sided fluff piece, you lose credibility in my eyes. Brietbart continues to churn out articles with about as much research that the NYT article had presenting the other side of Pizzagate. (And please, do not accuse me of supporting this conspiracy, just take a look at the article and read it critically for what it is. Does it present both sides of an issue? Does it use facts to back up claims? Does it use research to prove claims they are presenting as true and does it disprove claims that are false?)

The problem is writing stuff like that article are extremely easy to do because they are mostly opinion pieces. And Cheap to make. That drives revenue which keeps the business model afloat.

I realize the business model that they have is dying, but when there is roughly as much fact in some WaPo or NYT articles that there is in a Brietbart article, then you've got problems.
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