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Old 11-20-2016, 01:15 PM   #25
CliffFletcher
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Ufff...

You do realize that sexism is at the root of this argument? You're normalizing a man's penchant to disregard their spouse's career ambitions, and assigning a craven double-standard regarding men and women's view of spouses.

And never mind the fact that you're placing the family responsibilities in the lap of the women to resolve.
No. I'm saying that in the various qualities we look for in a mate, women tend to rank earning power and status higher than men do. There's no double-standard at all. Neither men nor women can expect to have all of a high-status career, a mate with a high-status career, and a healthy family life. Pick two. The notion that you can have everything is delusional. For men and women.

Ambitious men and women could also decide to stop sacrificing family and private time in order to reach the heights of the professions. But when we're talking about the glass ceiling, we're talking about positions vied over by extraordinarily ambitious people. Their willingness to set aside other considerations in pursuit of status and success is their defining characteristic. It would be nice if social norms around high-status jobs changed - and I think they are changing - but it's one of those things that's extremely difficult to implement in a top-down fashion.
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