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Originally Posted by New Era
The Flames leave town you'll be cheering for the Oilers for quite some time. If the current ownership can't make it work I don't see a long line of others to give it another go, not without a new building with a sweetheart lease they can get in other cities. Calgary will suffer the same fate as the Jets. You'll have to hope that some major billionaire wants to blow money on a sports team in a second rate city who let their team exit the scene previously. Don't think for a second the NHL would also be complaint in letting a team relocate to Calgary so soon after the Flames left. You'll see Quebec get a team before Calgary. If the Flames move to Seattle, you'll see Portland get a team before Calgary. The city of Calgary will lose their hockey team and that will be that. You'll be pinning for another one for a decade or more. Don't take for granted what you have. Ask the people of St. Louis how they are enjoying their football season.
I am not suggesting that you support any arena proposal, but taking the petulant stance that the Flames can gtfo is just plain silly. You're cutting your nose off to spite your face.
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Couldn't disagree more.
1) The Flames would be fools to leave Calgary. Sweetheart deal on another arena doesn't mean squat - just ask the Glendale Coyotes. Calgary is a moneymaker, even if they don't make AS much money as they wish.
2) If they leave, I would of course be upset - I have cheered for this team since they moved here, and I grew up with this team. The history this organization has is important to me. It isn't like I wouldn't give a crap.
3) Sorry, you can cheer for the Oilers in a Flames leaving town scenario, but that's not the way I roll.
4) Why do you come across as an ass by insinuating my thoughts and actions are petulant? Quit being an ass by insulting quoted posts in this passive-aggressive way you have, and you will find yourself involved in more discussions and less alterations.
5) I am not cutting my nose off to spite my face. The Flames would be gone. I don't agree with giving them all the money in my wallet and getting down on my hands and knees begging them to stay. If they chose to leave for greener pastures, there is little I could (or would) do to stop them.
6) Doubtful the NHL would allow them to move. Calgary is a moneymaker. Those idiots up north had more to lose by Katz' stupid threats about relocation because of the money he was going to pour into the city in other areas. If they did fall for the 'we are moving to Seattle' bit, then they all deserve to get canned.
7) If for an instant Calgary does lose the Flames, you really believe it would take a decade to get another team - either through expansion or relocation? You are kidding yourself. This isn't Winnipeg. There is a tonne of corporate support in a hockey mad city that spends money.
Flames aren't leaving, and no amount of bluffing would make me think otherwise. If they do, well, nothing I can do to stop them. I am not going to march down to Nenshi's office and demand they give rich billionaires what they want. If I ever march down to Nenshi's office to demand anything, it is to demand he do more to help people like the homeless, or the people that are falling behind and need a bit of support to not become homeless. Or any other area of great need around the city that is underfunded and actually helps someone who needs it most.
I was 100% on board with even a 50/50 split at the start of all of this. I bet you can guess where I fall now. If you think that is me being petulant and cutting off my nose to spite my face, then there is little we can discuss.