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Old 11-15-2016, 09:04 AM   #1865
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher View Post
Actually, it's radicals on the left who have turned away from MLK's approach to combating racism. They've turned their backs on aspiring to a colour-blind society.

You won't win over those racists you're talking about. But you need to win the fight for liberals. People who aren't racist but who also don't get hysterical over sombreros. Racists are against Black Lives Matter. But a lot of people who aren't racist have a problem with them kicking out police from a gay pride parade. Telling them to shut their mouths only drives them away.

People who aspire to a color-blind, individualistic society that values free speech and open exchange of ideas are being alienated from the left. You can condemn racism while still trying to stem the flow of liberals out of your camp. And most importantly, you can recognize how shutting out debate on a whole range of issues is alienating more and more people. Or you are going to continue losing pro-choice, educated, irrelgious, pro-gay marriage voters who have decided they'll join the camp that tells them to shut up less often. The one that feels less like a religious movement.

Here's a quote from the comments of the video I posted. It's sad that you find more pointed commentary about the state of politics today on a frickin' Youtube comment than you do in the mainstream media.
While I agree with the idea, this has very little to do with Hillary Rodham Clinton and Bill and Wall Street and the elite, which was the actual situation this election. This is shoehorning an explanatory narrative of yours onto a situation where it doesn't fit.

Perhaps if the Bernie crowd were the ones in control of the Democratic Party you'd have a point, but they're also being duped.

Identity politics, while an interesting topic sometimes, is not the story of this election. Nor is it the narrative/driving force behind Brexit and other similar movements. These movements are about economics and leaving behind a large swath of the population in the wake of globalization.

It's been pointed out many times that many Obama supporters in the Rustbelt switched to the Republicans: not for cultural reasons, but for economic reasons. They didn't vote for Trump because they're mad at the liberals for regressive leftism, they did it because the elite wing of the Democratic party is perceived as ignoring their economic needs. And Trump was the Molotov Cocktail at the dinner party.

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