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Old 11-15-2016, 08:03 AM   #1864
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos View Post
Yeah that makes sense, if that one issue is all that matters. If it does, then fine, go ahead and vote for him. A single-issue vote counts just like the rest of 'em, as it should.

But it does seem a little loopy, and his laughable and remarkably coincidental conversion to Christianity can only believed by the most gullible among us.
No, but Pence is a conservative christian. I don't think anyone actually believes trump is a Christian; they just think he'll appoint a supreme court justice that is more favorable for the anti-abortion movement.



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Again, that's fair, if they actually believe it. But who the hell would? He has his own name-branded goods manufactured in China. He sends his own manufacturing jobs overseas and then rails against others who do the same.

Voting for this guy thinking he shares your Evangelical Christian beliefs and is concerned about manufacturing jobs for "the little guy" is to ignore what he has said and done for decades.

If I were an Evangelical Christian or an unemployed coal miner, of course I'd vote for someone who shares my beliefs and/or was going to get me my job back, despite their other flaws.

I just don't see how anyone can believe he shares those beliefs or cares about getting that job back. He has proudly been the exact opposite of a devout Christian and an enemy of the working class for his entire life.

Not to start this argument again, that's where the "these people are dumb" sentiment comes from.

It's not nice to say, not helpful, and apparently counterproductive, but if I vote for someone who blatantly mocks my most sacred beliefs and doesn't care about me or my job, then I'm pretty goddamned dumb too.
Cognitive biases are more powerful than you realize. It's dumb vs human. Cognitive biases cause really smart people to believe some really dumb things; In fact, the smarter you are, the more likely your going to believe something really dumb as you are able to make excuses for almost any position.

And in the case of voting for Trump, he spoke to these people, showed he understood their difficulties, and said he'd fix it. Hillary made excuses for it. So it was voting for a man who might do things to help vs voting for a woman that clearly wasn't going to and took them for granted. Even if trump doesn't help them at all, they are mostly in the same spot with one exception. Next election, candidates are going to pay attention to the rust belt because its now a battleground.
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