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Originally Posted by sworkhard
1. Evangelicals. These people voted for Trump because of social issues. It's not that they necessarily agree with Trump's treatment of women and minorities, but for them saving lives is more important than ensure people have comfortable lives. This is to say they voted for Trump for his appointments to the supreme court and in the hope of overturning Roe vs Wade.
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Yeah that makes sense, if that one issue is all that matters. If it does, then fine, go ahead and vote for him. A single-issue vote counts just like the rest of 'em, as it should.
But it does seem a little loopy, and his laughable and remarkably coincidental conversion to Christianity can only believed by the most gullible among us.
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Originally Posted by sworkhard
2. People most strongly effected by the shift to Chinese manufacturing. These people came out in droves for both Bernie and Trump. Bernie Sanders would probably have won some of these states had he been the Democratic candidate. These people recognize that fighting over identity related social issues is a luxury for people with money, but putting food on the table and dealing with problems like mass drug addiction come first. These people don't care about Trump's sexism, racism, etc because they have bigger, more life threatening things to worry about. For these people trade, immigration, and corporatism were the biggest issues.
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Again, that's fair, if they actually believe it. But who the hell would? He has his own name-branded goods manufactured in China. He sends his own manufacturing jobs overseas and then rails against others who do the same.
Voting for this guy thinking he shares your Evangelical Christian beliefs and is concerned about manufacturing jobs for "the little guy" is to ignore what he has said and done for decades.
If I were an Evangelical Christian or an unemployed coal miner, of course I'd vote for someone who shares my beliefs and/or was going to get me my job back, despite their other flaws.
I just don't see how anyone can believe he shares those beliefs or cares about getting that job back. He has proudly been the exact opposite of a devout Christian and an enemy of the working class for his entire life.
Not to start this argument again, that's where the "these people are dumb" sentiment comes from.
It's not nice to say, not helpful, and apparently counterproductive, but if I vote for someone who blatantly mocks my most sacred beliefs and doesn't care about me or my job, then I'm pretty goddamned dumb too.