Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I really like you as a poster, so it disappoints me to see you so blatantly hypocritical and oblivious to the issue that you think you're addressing.
No one is asking to be coddled. People like PsYcNeT constantly insult anyone that isn't as militantly left as him/her, and those people are fed up. They aren't racist, they aren't misogynistic, they are simply tired of being lectured about white privilege.
The militant left can be just as prejudist as the people they are trying to attack. And their victims are sick of it. That doesn't make them racist, it just makes them tired and frustrated.
I believe this election will, in the long run, be a major positive because it is bringing a lot of things to the surface that need to be brought to the surface (on all sides). It is only then that they can be dealt with.
|
Not sure how I'm hypocritical but I'll roll with it. I also learned I have a sense of self important elitism today and that's pretty cool.
I think we are having a failure to communicate regarding semantics. I won't go so far as to call it hypocritical but I think we can both agree that a large portion of the right has mocked "triggering" for quite some time don't you think? I find it side splittingly hilarious that these same people are now chastising the left for being too blunt about how they approach those who believe awful things. The "non PC" party gets upset when you point out awful crap they believe. You don't want to hear about white privilege? Well that kind of sucks because it's a thing and ignoring it isn't going to fix anything. That's why uncomfortable truths have the word uncomfortable in front of them.
The television mogul and real estate man who has been elected was objectively hateful on both the campaign trail and in his public history. Many would like to argue he's not racist so fine, we'll tone it down to bigoted or prejudiced. He is clearly, to me at least, misogynistic and there is now a VP in place who is so unapologetically homophobic that I'm surprised there's any debate. Conversion therapy? C'mon son.
These are not acceptable views. Sorry let me clarify that. I don't want to believe I live in a place where these are the kinds of views that should be considered acceptable for political policy. In a civilised society they have no place in government and by normalizing them and saying "let's discuss this reasonably" they're being given a level of respectability they don't deserve. You want to believe terrible things at home? Go ahead I can't stop you but for a country and for the commander in Chief it's an embarrassment.
Now not everyone who voted Trump is an out and out Muslim hating, sexual assault advocating, race baiting hate monger. Thinking that would be silly. But it stands to reason that a large section of those who did vote Trump didn't find any of those things to be a big enough problem to guide their conscience somewhere else. There are other options of course. Perhaps they don't consider social issues to be important in the least in a vote for president, maybe they don't possess the capacity to understand the repurcussions of these ideas, or maybe they are kind of awful people. These are all options I'd think but that's part of my liberal elitism showing through and I'm ok with that.
What my rambling is saying is that tired and frustrated doesn't get to be the cop out argument for why you don't want to address it. That it makes you uncomfortable is a good thing, because that means you know it's crappy. Sure they have their own problems with poverty or loss of jobs and that sucks but it doesn't absolve them from the consequences of their vote.
Apologies if this is all over the place, I was just trying to capture the spirit of the thing you know?