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Your time frame is inadequate - WAY too small I'm talking about years and years of progress that's been in the works since probably before you were born and your reaction is "yeah well it's not working, Trump!"
No Corsi, it is working. It has been working. A step backwards isn't indicative of the whole process crumbling. Name one period of progress in humanity had zero setbacks and no resistance. I'm honestly curious if you can find one because I'm not aware of any.
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Well, now I'm confused about what we're talking about. Because I don't think the years of progress that have been in the works since before I were born were the product of the politics I'm suggesting are poisonous, which have only emerged in the last handful of years.
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You haven't presented a remotely plausible solution.
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Sure I have. My solution is conversation and argument, the marketplace of ideas. I certainly admit it has flaws, doesn't solve all problems, works very slowly, and the potential achilles heel I mentioned. But it's better than the alternatives, which are going to just make things worse.
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How is acting in a tribal fashion working? Because certain "tribes" are pushing towards equal stature. They congregate this way because they are more powerful together and united than they are alone. I could understand your concern if you thought they were looking to "one up" other tribes, but it's about being equal. As I said, acting tribal moves towards the end of tribalism by eliminating the NEED to act that way.
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What tribes are you talking about becoming equal? Are you talking about dividing people into groups according to their race or gender or sexual orientation, and calling those groups tribes? I'm not sure I'm understanding you.
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EDIT: and New Era got it spot on. You can't keep condemning "the left" and their tactics of derision and shame and then go insulting people who do that. You're doing the EXACT same thing you're telling them not to do, while you tell them not to do it. You think it'll backfire for the left, so how does it serve you?
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I'm not insulting anyone for having a different perspective. Some people are willing to have an earnest conversation and work through difficult topics and ideas. Other just want to post snarky trolling crap. If someone wants to engage and talk about ideas, that's fine, but just posting smarmy sarcastic BS when people are trying to have a conversation is annoying.
EDIT: Or, what Enoch Root said.