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Old 11-14-2016, 05:22 PM   #1729
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague View Post
I don't disagree that these things are part of "being human" - actually, they all fall under the heading of "tribalism". Ten thousand years ago, the tribalistic impulse wasn't just part of being human, it was probably a useful evolutionary trait that was selected for. But at this point, in the world we've built, I think that on balance it's very much a human failing.

It might be a failing in some respects but I don't believe it's served it's usefulness. When it has, it'll be evolved out. Right now, it's still incredibly impactful and relevant to people.

You and Cliff (maybe Cliff more than you) rally against tribalism and "identity politics," but it's part of being human. This phase will evolve into something else, but you won't ever eliminate that need or that part of being human. Your view on it is more philosophical than practical.


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Violence and murder are human. And yet we've managed to dramatically reduce them, along with a host of other destructive behaviours, over the centuries.

Those are behaviours though that are a result of tribalism. They aren't ingrained aspects of human nature.

They might have been primitive, but they served evolution well. They were not eliminated, they were replaced.
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