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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague
This is what I'm talking about when I say I'm holding the left to a higher standard: it ought to be able to fix itself. Maybe ten years ago it could have. I think things might be too far gone, though.
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I see what you're saying, though, I don't know if I see evidence of well-thought out, measured, carefully considered speech working any better than just being blunt. It sure feels smarter.
The academic approach just isn't really relevant. Look at your post, you paint a VERY bleak picture of us having lost some ability and longing for the days of yore. Why? Do you think things are better for more people from a social equality standpoint now? Or 60 years ago? I think it's significantly better now, and big parts of progress in that were rude and violent. You're enough years older than me to have a different perspective, but fast and hard change is what people are after now because it's attainable. I think (hope) a lot of people on the left were aware of the pushback brewing. Either way, no matter in what view, you can't hold the left to some higher standard. We're all people with the same core values.
I don't know, I don't have the answer. I'm always against painting an entire group, whether it's conservatives, the left, Islam, w/e, as something positive or negative (or an entire person for that matter). I don't have a problem with just being blunt and coming at specific issues though.
I don't think there's a problem with noting privilege, or attitudes and language that are obviously descended from racist or bigoted values, thus, I support Psyche's POV. I agree though that the general painting is a huge problem. Bad elements do not make bad people, and bad people do not make bad groups.