[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by OldDutch

Was in Chicago on the weekend. People down there were all too eager to chat about it even though I never brought it up.

People are flipping out in Obama's hometown, which isn't all that surprising. What was interesting was the Uber driver told me he had a statistician from one of the big polling companies a week before the election. The stats guy said that in auto polls Trump would be ahead, yet when they did human calls Hillary won. He said it was like that across the country.

Lots of closet Trump boosters. Which leads me to wonder if people voted for him are closet racists, didn't agree with the social but the economic policy, felt pressure from others to support Hillary publicly, or something else.

Love to see the objective stats if/when they come out of why this happened. It actually explains in a way how Hillary appeared to be ahead but lost when it counted.

I think people were more sick of losing their jobs to be honest. I still contend that Obama's tenure brought little relief to those who needed it the most. I think he helped the economy just in an uneven way. The black vote will always be his, but Hillary couldn't inspire enough confidence that she'll change course for these people.

Now do I think he will actually help anyone? Of course not. Just amazing how bad peoples lives have to be to vote for him. Speaks to the class divisions and how wide they are down there.

I think that your oversimplifying things a bit. I think that the worst thing that Hillary did in her campaign was the deplorables comment. Right at that moment she created a firm battle line and ostracized a lot of voters that might have plugged their noses and voted for her. Instead as a group they gave her a tremendous middle finger. She didn't create a sheltered all inclusive voting circle for herself and as the campaign went on and Trump painted her as everything wrong with the American Political Process. Corrupt, doesn't care about the people struggling out there with riding costs, he created a narrative of us versus them that Hillary played into.