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Originally Posted by corporatejay
It took one post. One. Congrats.
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If you look hard enough in each post you're going to find what you're looking for.
Just re-read this post:
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher
The notion that these things are strictly a matter of external stereotypes is dumbfounding. The biggest differences between the outcomes of Asian Americans and African Americans are:
- Asians are far more likely to grow up in intact homes with a mother and father.
- Asians are far more likely to finish school and go on to post-secondary education.
While there are historical forces that have hurt black families and educational aspirations, there are internal cultural problems as well. While it's idiotic to pretend wider societal forces don't shape people's lives, it's also idiotic to pretend only wider societal forces shape people's lives. There are limits to what the state can do to encourage black men to take responsibility for their children, or encourage black families to put a premium on education. |
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What argument is Cliff presenting here to account for the perceived difference in black communities and asian communities other than race?
He's acknowledging there are other societal forces that shape people's lives, but ultimately the differennce between black integration and asian integration in american society comes down to the internal community and their desire to 'take responsibility for their children' or to 'encourage black families to put a prermium on education.'.
If Cliff has a different argument here than the difference between Asian integration in society and Black integration in society isn't rooted in the inherent desires of the race-based community then he can go ahead and make that argument.