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ernie · 11-10-2016, 11:21 AM

Very few voters want to hear the truth. They don't want to hear that by and large the factory industry is dead or dying and can not be truly revived. They don't want to hear about the problems of climate change if it closes down the coal plant down the street. They don't want to hear that the working public is getting more and more educated and the economy has to change to accommodate that educational maturity. Not only are the factory jobs not coming back they CAN'T come back for the next generations to build and be successful. It's a hard truth but I believe it to be the truth (your blue collar jobs are now education based. Operators in our plant have gone from high school educated to needing a 2 year technical degree for instance).

Most voters don't want to hear what is best for the overall good of their country and neighbours. They only want to know how will it affect themselves and that's it. And if you think that way and are white the place you cast your vote is obvious.

Now I'm not saying everyone is racist or anything like that. But by the same token you don't get to talk about how it's not race when there is such a strict and obvious divide on who people vote for. Just because Trump got some very slightly surprising numbers among minorities doesn't change the fact this divide is massive and should be ignored.

The US likes to pretend it's the most mature democracy in the world because (they believe) it's the oldest. It's not mature. If it were mature it would look for ways to be inclusive rather than find ways to exploit the differences so some nominee can win. And it is fair to note that this has happened for a long time...the parties simply switched roles in this regard with the Southern deal.

Newsflash to the nominees...you aren't supposed to be the one winning. The population is supposed to be the one who wins. And that's what happens with a true mature democracy. Differences are expressed. Ideas some together from both sides and amalgamate somewhere around the middle. The US democracy is based on do whatever you want and say whatever you want to get the win. It's based on lobbyists be they industry or religious or other. It is not based on do what is best for the country and people as a whole.

11-10-2016, 11:21 AM	#915
ernie Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2004 Exp:	Very few voters want to hear the truth. They don't want to hear that by and large the factory industry is dead or dying and can not be truly revived. They don't want to hear about the problems of climate change if it closes down the coal plant down the street. They don't want to hear that the working public is getting more and more educated and the economy has to change to accommodate that educational maturity. Not only are the factory jobs not coming back they CAN'T come back for the next generations to build and be successful. It's a hard truth but I believe it to be the truth (your blue collar jobs are now education based. Operators in our plant have gone from high school educated to needing a 2 year technical degree for instance). Most voters don't want to hear what is best for the overall good of their country and neighbours. They only want to know how will it affect themselves and that's it. And if you think that way and are white the place you cast your vote is obvious. Now I'm not saying everyone is racist or anything like that. But by the same token you don't get to talk about how it's not race when there is such a strict and obvious divide on who people vote for. Just because Trump got some very slightly surprising numbers among minorities doesn't change the fact this divide is massive and should be ignored. The US likes to pretend it's the most mature democracy in the world because (they believe) it's the oldest. It's not mature. If it were mature it would look for ways to be inclusive rather than find ways to exploit the differences so some nominee can win. And it is fair to note that this has happened for a long time...the parties simply switched roles in this regard with the Southern deal. Newsflash to the nominees...you aren't supposed to be the one winning. The population is supposed to be the one who wins. And that's what happens with a true mature democracy. Differences are expressed. Ideas some together from both sides and amalgamate somewhere around the middle. The US democracy is based on do whatever you want and say whatever you want to get the win. It's based on lobbyists be they industry or religious or other. It is not based on do what is best for the country and people as a whole. Last edited by ernie; 11-10-2016 at 11:27 AM.