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Old 11-09-2016, 03:06 PM   #480
CliffFletcher
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Originally Posted by New Era View Post
Mexicans are the most self-loathing people you'll meet, especially those with more Spanish blood than Mexicans. The ones who voted Trump are more of Spanish descent than the average Mexican. It's very weird. You really need to understand their culture to understand their voting behaviors, which I didn't get until I had to work with the community itself.
Of it could be that legal immigrants and those who have been in the U.S. for a generation or two resent the illegal immigrants for the same reason the local whites do - for driving down wages. It could also be that minorities sometimes vote on issues other than race.

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Originally Posted by opendoor View Post
I guess the question is, what exactly is so bleak about life in the US, particularly for the white voters that made up most of Trump's support? The unemployment rate is as low as it has been in the last 15 years, real median income has gone up nearly 10% in the last 4 years and is approaching the highest levels in modern US history, cost of living relative to income has gone down, and crime is quite low by US standards.
We're in an era where economic growth (and stagnation) are localized. The educated who work in a large city could be doing well while the less educated who live in a small town 100 miles away are experiencing job loss and declining opportunity.

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Originally Posted by pylon View Post
This whole thing sucks huge. But there's nobody to blame but Clinton's supporters. They should have come out in absolute droves. They didn't, and here we are. President Rapey McPussgrabber. I would like to know how many people sitting in her little after party, gaping in horror at what was going on, actually took the time to cast a vote. Nobody took Trump seriously, and thought this was a lock. I would absolutely love to see, how many registered DEM voters vs. REP voters didn't cast a vote. I have a feeling it would be very telling.

It's election day. You drop everything and vote.
The figure I've seen is 5 million fewer Democrats voted for Clinton than voted for Obama. However, citizens are perfectly within their rights to choose not to vote at all if they don't like any of the candidates.

Maybe the problem is the way the nomination process of both parties yields such unappealing candidates. Is is money? Media scrutiny? Ideological litmus tests?
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