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Calgary4LIfe · 10-28-2016, 12:21 AM

I don't think anybody should be saying that Kanzig won't be an NHL player. He is a unique and intriguing prospect, and his skating is rather amazing for a player of his size. You can't count on him making it, but you shouldn't count him out either. Just because he got sent down to the ECHL is fairly irrelevant - Kulak got sent down to the ECHL too. The ECHL isn't the graveyard that it once was.

As for Jokipakka vs Engelland - before we decide on either, I would like to know what they are both looking for in terms of their next contract. If either one prices himself out of the Flames, that is the one I hope that Vegas selects. It is also no guarantee that Engelland would want to play in Vegas anyways, even if he does live there in the off-season. Lots of players don't want anything to do with their hometown teams. Some players dream of playing for the hometown squad. Everyone is different.

As for the open-window on negotiating with free agents, I think it gives Vegas a leg-up only on the '3rd tier' types. A Brent Burns isn't going to sign with Vegas ahead of talking to the other 28 29 teams, if he has decided to test free agency and doesn't feel San Jose is a fit any longer. A guy like Versteeg? Engelland? Sure.

Vegas may gamble (pun intended) on some 2nd tier UFAs and make them think twice about passing up the offer - that is where there really advantage is I believe. The rest of the UFA class are the types that stick around through most of the summer hoping to land a contract. Doesn't seem like much of an advantage really.

I think this is just to help close out a possible loophole with teams intentionally keeping their upcoming UFAs unsigned with a 'handshake' agreement in place on a contract to be signed after the expansion draft happens. The 'superstars' won't care as they will get their money anyways, but it does leave open some risk as they can get blown away by an offer, and possibly get sold on the idea of playing in Vegas.

I am ok with losing a Shinkaruk, or Jokipakka, or Engelland (even though I love Engelland) and probably anyone else outside of Bennett, Monahan, Gaudreau, Backlund, Frolik, Brouwer and probably Ferland as the 7th protected guy, and anyone other than Hamilton, Brodie, Giordano on defence.

You can only lose one guy. Sucks, but these are replaceable.

10-28-2016, 12:21 AM	#49
Calgary4LIfe Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Exp:	I don't think anybody should be saying that Kanzig won't be an NHL player. He is a unique and intriguing prospect, and his skating is rather amazing for a player of his size. You can't count on him making it, but you shouldn't count him out either. Just because he got sent down to the ECHL is fairly irrelevant - Kulak got sent down to the ECHL too. The ECHL isn't the graveyard that it once was. As for Jokipakka vs Engelland - before we decide on either, I would like to know what they are both looking for in terms of their next contract. If either one prices himself out of the Flames, that is the one I hope that Vegas selects. It is also no guarantee that Engelland would want to play in Vegas anyways, even if he does live there in the off-season. Lots of players don't want anything to do with their hometown teams. Some players dream of playing for the hometown squad. Everyone is different. As for the open-window on negotiating with free agents, I think it gives Vegas a leg-up only on the '3rd tier' types. A Brent Burns isn't going to sign with Vegas ahead of talking to the other 28 29 teams, if he has decided to test free agency and doesn't feel San Jose is a fit any longer. A guy like Versteeg? Engelland? Sure. Vegas may gamble (pun intended) on some 2nd tier UFAs and make them think twice about passing up the offer - that is where there really advantage is I believe. The rest of the UFA class are the types that stick around through most of the summer hoping to land a contract. Doesn't seem like much of an advantage really. I think this is just to help close out a possible loophole with teams intentionally keeping their upcoming UFAs unsigned with a 'handshake' agreement in place on a contract to be signed after the expansion draft happens. The 'superstars' won't care as they will get their money anyways, but it does leave open some risk as they can get blown away by an offer, and possibly get sold on the idea of playing in Vegas. I am ok with losing a Shinkaruk, or Jokipakka, or Engelland (even though I love Engelland) and probably anyone else outside of Bennett, Monahan, Gaudreau, Backlund, Frolik, Brouwer and probably Ferland as the 7th protected guy, and anyone other than Hamilton, Brodie, Giordano on defence. You can only lose one guy. Sucks, but these are replaceable.