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Old 10-17-2006, 08:50 PM   #72
jolinar of malkshor
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(1) The animal cruelty laws *NEED* to be tougher. I heard about these cases often enough and each time it just sickens me to death. And the stupid thing is that people are taught that society just doesn't take this crime seriously and the criminals just escalate their attacks.
There has been a bill on the table for years but...just before it was to be passed in parlament, old Jean called a early election. Then when it was brought back up in 2003 the Liberal majority Senate decided to kill the bill by not acting on it and waiting till Martin was overthrown.

I have no problem with toughening laws for crap like this...but when we can't even get it right for humans I don't think we should have stiffer penalties for killing an animal over a human.

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(2) I think vegetarianism and torture of animals are different topics altogether as much as torturing human beings and cannibalism are separate subjects. The natives of the pacific islands were not people who tortured someone to appease their sadistic need to see someone cry in pain. The motives are completely different.
Did I miss something? Was that actually brought up?

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(3) But since it was brought up.... I too am a vegetarian, but not vegan. I own nothing leather. However, the anti-AR people are always looking for the vegetarians wearing leather sneakers which really makes no sense to me whatsoever. If Tom recycles his aluminum cans, glass, plastic bottles and paperboard but not his milk cartons does Bob who recycles nothing have any credibility in pointing out Toms hypocrisy? If you have taken steps in your life to reduce the suffering of animals (including humans) - any steps whatsoever - you deserve to be commended, not chastized.
Everyone should be allow to follow their own beliefs....but I think there are just as many "Vegans" (or what ever they are called) that push their beliefs on the carnivores...as there are the other way.
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