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flamesrule_kipper34 · 10-23-2016, 02:49 PM

I'm going to preface this by saying, I was not a fan of the GG hiring (or any of the coaching decisions for that matter going into this season...firing Hartley, retaining Gelinas and bringing in Cameron notably).

That being said, unfortunately, I can see why Hartley was let go...as a person I loved him to death but if you take an honest look at the metrics they were bad. The conversations of losing players in the room, I didn't see any of that on the ice I honestly did not. But perhaps I'm not as good at reading things like that for on the ice performance.

Now onto this season and some of what I'm seeing spewed towards Treliving.

If Trelving manged to grab a roster full of Weber's, Subban's, Crosby's, Kane's and Towes' and these were the results would we be saying the same thing? I highly doubt it. Let's be honest, minus the price he paid for a few UFA's (arguably), I think collectively most lauded his moves and his re-signings (including most of the prices at the market rate). Also think about how well his UFA's of this summer are playing at the moment, Johnson and Brouwer are playing great. Elliott is NOT passing the eye test but I think he deserves some benefit of time here.

So why is this suddenly all his fault? The players are LARGELY to blame coupled with the adjustment period to a new coach, new system and training camp that missed some notables (i.e. Gaudreau and Monahan).

The one thing that needs to play out more is his signing of GG, I wasn't a fan but that is largely due to the fact that I didn't see him as a flashy hiring and didn't know much about him. I'm waiting to see things play out, yes things look pretty bleak right now and I wouldn't be surprised or upset if he were fired ASAP but I highly doubt that will happen.

This realistically is the only thing I'm currently judging Treliving on at the moment.

The players NEED to step up, it is absolutely atrocious watching Gio, Monahan, D. Hamilton play the way they are. Wideman I no longer expect anything and Gaudreau is starting to come around it seems like but the top players as a group are playing like hot garbage. This rests on THEM.

10-23-2016, 02:49 PM	#88
flamesrule_kipper34 Franchise Player Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Calgary, AB Exp:	I'm going to preface this by saying, I was not a fan of the GG hiring (or any of the coaching decisions for that matter going into this season...firing Hartley, retaining Gelinas and bringing in Cameron notably). That being said, unfortunately, I can see why Hartley was let go...as a person I loved him to death but if you take an honest look at the metrics they were bad. The conversations of losing players in the room, I didn't see any of that on the ice I honestly did not. But perhaps I'm not as good at reading things like that for on the ice performance. Now onto this season and some of what I'm seeing spewed towards Treliving. If Trelving manged to grab a roster full of Weber's, Subban's, Crosby's, Kane's and Towes' and these were the results would we be saying the same thing? I highly doubt it. Let's be honest, minus the price he paid for a few UFA's (arguably), I think collectively most lauded his moves and his re-signings (including most of the prices at the market rate). Also think about how well his UFA's of this summer are playing at the moment, Johnson and Brouwer are playing great. Elliott is NOT passing the eye test but I think he deserves some benefit of time here. So why is this suddenly all his fault? The players are LARGELY to blame coupled with the adjustment period to a new coach, new system and training camp that missed some notables (i.e. Gaudreau and Monahan). The one thing that needs to play out more is his signing of GG, I wasn't a fan but that is largely due to the fact that I didn't see him as a flashy hiring and didn't know much about him. I'm waiting to see things play out, yes things look pretty bleak right now and I wouldn't be surprised or upset if he were fired ASAP but I highly doubt that will happen. This realistically is the only thing I'm currently judging Treliving on at the moment. The players NEED to step up, it is absolutely atrocious watching Gio, Monahan, D. Hamilton play the way they are. Wideman I no longer expect anything and Gaudreau is starting to come around it seems like but the top players as a group are playing like hot garbage. This rests on THEM. Last edited by flamesrule_kipper34; 10-23-2016 at 02:51 PM.