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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
I went to his 2007 concert in Calgary. He was too old and rusty to perform then. Spent too much time talking about politics during the concert. He is 73 years old now; not sure there will be an improvement. There's got to be an age when one should just stop performing rock music for his/her own good name's sake. Bob Dylan's recent show in Calgary was a disaster, not a single word came out audible. And I am a HUGE fan of both Pink Floyd and Bob Dylan...  |
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Originally Posted by zamler
Roger Waters has not been able to sing for 20 years he lip syncs most everything now. Gilmour's voice is finally starting to fade as well.  |
So which is it?
Waters was never the best singer and when I saw him in 07 he had a lot of help. The idea from the beginning was for him to only do some of the Gilmour singing parts. He always had a lot of backing vocals.
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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
Waters was the poetry, Gilmour was the music and Wright was the sound of Pink Floyd. Mason was, well, Mason... On their own, only Gilmour was able to produce anything of value, because he was a real musician and one of the very best guitar players in the world. But even with all that, he was not able to write anything of value after the Momentary Lapse of Reason and Division Bell. His blues albums "About Face" etc. are quite boring. Waters was never able to sing or write music well to begin with, so nothing changed for him after the breakup.
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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
Of course, they are. He is a world-class musician with all of the bells and whistles at his disposal! Anything this guy does is solid and it should be. I mean, search youtube videos where he teaches how to play simple PF songs - even there he is great, with an acoustic guitar only. It's just not the same caliber music in comparison to what it was, when they were together, that's all.
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What's funny about Waters/Gilmour is that they were perfect for each other musically. They were not like Lennon/McCartney where they were accomplished musicians and lyricists/songwriters in their own right and were downright amazing together.
Waters has always been about folksy music, strong theatrical ideas and lyrics but his Wall demo ideas were all pretty poor. This is evident on some of the weaker Wall tracks and The Final Cut. They are both amazing albums, but Waters' weaknesses are apparent.
Gilmour on the other hand is an amazing musician but can't write lyrics to save his life. Momentary Lapse of Reason and Division Bell are both albums by committee as he had to bring in every session musician on the planet and even then he only produced a couple of tracks that even come close to the levels of PF's glory years.
Much as I love Gilmour most of his music is painfully boring and both Division Bell and Lapse of Reason relived so heavily on his guitar abilities and numerous thematic retreads from previous albums (like the excessive use of sound effects, wind blowing, water rushing, random other sounds etc).
When PF were at their best, Waters presented almost all the thematic ideas and lyrics with mediocre at best music, and Gilmour helped polish it into generational rock music.
Neither of them have come remotely close to capturing the magic that they were able to create together.