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Originally Posted by cross16
Agree 100%. I've never understood why people complain that Toronto will become Cleveland like its a bad thing. Fans love AA because he built the team like they would. Made splashy trades and splashy free agency signings but in reality he didn't build a very sustainable product and didn't build a franchise that could contend year after year. He wound up giving up alot of talent to build some very mediocre clubs.
The best Jays position player they have drafted and developed in the last 10 years is Kevin Pillar and the last position player they drafted that became an All-Star I'm pretty sure was Vernon Wells. That tells you all you need to know about the problems the Jays have. So far, I've seen Shapiro and Atkins pretty determined to address that which I think is critical and the right move.
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I love the Shapiro and Atkins move. These guys get is from a baseball perspective. AA is so overrated it's unbelievable.
That said, I don't think people look at Cleveland as a bad thing. What gets them angry is that we should be looking at what these guys did in a small market like Cleveland and be stoked as to what they can do in market with Toronto and some payroll, but deep down we all know they were brought in here to get the job done cheaply like it was done in Cleveland.