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Old 10-17-2016, 07:55 AM   #2709
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Yes politicians lie, especially career politicians like Hillary who get massive donations from corporate sources. That's one valid reason to vote for Trump over Hillary.Look at her track record dude, it's all there. Wasn't she caught lying about landing under sniper fire in Bosnia? The video tape shows otherwise. She's clearly lying about these emails and somehow escapes prosecution, oh right she got a get out of jail free card from her buddy Obama. She's at best far to incompetent to be president, or she's a just lying criminal shill. Neither is acceptable.

Obama was a disaster, oh but he inherited a mess from Bush right, yeah but he made it even worse. The debt has gone up, the middle east is even more of a mess, racial tension and police tensions have never been higher. Now you have Hillary alluding to going to war with Russia WTF?

She wants to raise taxes and get more money for the government to piss away. You raise taxes and the people have less income to spend, so the economy suffers. If taxes get lowered, maybe businesses will come back and more jobs will be created, at the very least more businesses will be able to stay open or won't leave for other countries. Guaranteeing student loans has only resulted in the price of education to keep going up, that's what happens when you guarantee something, the providers will keep raising the price. Can anybody even defend Obamacare at this point? It needs to be scrapped and actually Trump gave a decent alternative plan at the last debate.

I've listened to the whole tape, and she's laughing about him passing the polygraph and him getting off. Yes I know how public defenders work, it's still despicable defending somebody that did that to a child, somebody that you know for a fact was guilty and you laugh about it. Shame Hillary shame on you.
Trump lies more than Hillary so we should elect trump. - still unadressed
Corporate donations - you do have a point, Hillary does receive money from corporations. What part of her track record would you like me to look at? The place where her foundation director refuses to do political favours for Donets to her foundation or where she opposes citizens United or where she's in favour of the media having free speech? What specific has Hillary done with corporate donations in terms of legislation that you object to.

Taxes - no economist supports Trumps tax plan. This is one of those points that regardless of what you think of Hillary her tax plan is better. It might not work however we know that Trumps won't. Trump also leaves in tax provisions that directly benefit his businesses. I'm open to debate here if you can bring in economists who support trumps taxation policy. She also doesn't want to raise most people's taxes she is raising taxes on people earning more that's 250k (or else 500). And we are also in the lowest taxes era in the last 100 years so yhe argument that it's more money for the government to piss away is false. It's restoring budgets to places where they were able to offer programs.

Trumps alternative to Obamacare was essentially Obamacare. Have competition and force insurance companies to cover people with pre existing conditions. Once you work through the details and realize you need a pool of healthy people to subsidize those with chronic disease in order. Though I think a government option insurance to provide real competition would be the best approach in the US.

I agree with you on student loans. Solution here is to cut tuition in half and cap tution increases at publicly funded universities to the rate of inflation and to have more means tested bursuries.

The tape shows Hillary laughing that she'll never trust a lie detector again. I don't understand how in context you see that tape as a negative. It's nervous laughter about how wrong she was.

Emails -- A republican supporting head of the FBI cleared her of wrong doing. They gave immunity deals to everyone hey could to try to catch her. At some point you have to admit that Hillary is a super genius who is so good at suppressing evidence and manipulating people that she should be president. I mean if you believe all of the conspiracies that you appear to then her ability to escape prosecution and maintain her public image uniquely qualifies her to be president. If she really has this ability to manipulate people from finding the truth then that skill will be amazing when applied to the Russians. So if the US is electing super villain Clinton then the US is getting someone more qualified then regular Hillary and certainly more qualified than Donald Trump.
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