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Originally Posted by Cheese
Sheesh...well Im glad we are finally agreeing on something...go back and read my posts...I have never suggested that man cant be bad...I have suggested that I believe man is inherantly good...there are triggers in life that may lead a man one way or the other. A baby is not born evil...he is given life circumstances to make him that way.
So now when you add religion to the mix...as I posted above...yes I firmly believe that it is indeed a cause of great sorrow in this world. Lets try a century without the corruption of organized religion. Be spiritual if you like...hell dance to the sun or the moon...but lets quit fooling ourselves about false prophets.
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Good and evil are a man made belief. Certantly we hope that children are taught to be good, and organized religion has been there to teach people what is "right" and what is "wrong". You blame it for all of lifes evils while ignoring that it has also historically been an outlet to express the good things in life.
Where religion fails is where mankind fails - his lust for power, for money, for control. As a man made creation, religion is prone to the same inherent flaws as exists in man. You cannot separate the two, especially when, as I mentioned, violence and evil are very much a secular problem.