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Old 10-16-2006, 09:13 PM   #88
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Professor Rudolph J. Rummel of the University of Hawaii outlines that barbarism in his book "Death by Government," a comprehensive detailing of the roughly 170 million people murdered by their own governments during the 20th century. From 1917 to its collapse in 1991, the Soviet Union murdered about 62 million of its own people. During Mao Tse-tung's reign, 35,236,000, possibly more, Chinese citizens were murdered. By comparison, Hitler's Nazis managed to murder 21 million of its citizens and citizens in nations they conquered. Adding these numbers to the 60 million lives lost in war makes the 20th century mankind's most brutal era. These murders were not religious based. In fact the worst offenders were devout atheists. The problem isn't religion but, the human condition.

Speaking as a Baptist our history is traced through ana-baptist groups rather than the Roman Catholic organization. Our history is non-violent. You tend to lump all sects of Christianity together and even all theistic religions. Yet you don't have the courage to face the shameful tract record of the atheistic governments within their short existence..
I have had this identical conversation with you on at least 10 different occasions...fear mongering by TaliBaptists about Communism = Atheism is bunk.

Atheism has nothing to do with political beliefs. Atheism is part of the Communist and Socialist doctrines, but atheists are not necessarily Communists or Socialists. Many point to the actions of Communist Russia, China and North Korea as examples of what atheists in political power would do. Communism uses an enforced stance of atheism to squash religious decent and instill it's own supreme dictatorship. Most atheists would not replace God with an all powerful government, that would be hypocritical. There is a strong belief in the values of freedom brought by a secular government.

Oh and I squashed your Hitler theory months ago too...perhaps you really cant read anything besides the theistic drivel you keep posting...


Hitler...what was he?
My conclusion is that Hitler, although he was brought up and confirmed as a Catholic, had abandoned Christianity by the time he was in control of Germany. Importantly though, he was not an atheist either. Read on to find out more…

Hitler was a Catholic







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