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Originally Posted by ricardodw
it is not a sole determinate... It expands on scoring stats.... Monahan is a top centre on the Flames based on his 65 pts..... he will not be a top centre in the league until he is able to go up against the Toews/Kopitars/Thorntons/Crosby/Carters . right now he goes up against them and they are consistently better.
Similarly Scheifele and Barkov are the top centres on their teams and while they are in the Monahan pt scoring range they would be considered by neutral observers to be better players at this point in their careers..... because they play against the same level of opposition as Monahan and win more battles.
Bouma is an incredibly bad example..... he was a -6 in 44 games. Reflected perfectly his dissapointing 2015-16 season. He also is someone who the Flames want to put out against the other teams top players and hope that he battles them to a scoreless draw at even strength.
Did Bouma have a great season in 2014-15? Not only his 34 pts show this, his +10 was also an indicator of how good he was. He was an extremely important player for the Flames that year..... they had him play at well below 100% physical readiness against the Ducks in the playoffs as he was a better option to play against the superior skilled Ducks than anyone else in the organization.
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Wow. I was clearly just using them as theoretical examples of how +\- could be flawed. I should have used made up names.
This is a challenge. Can't say I didn't try I guess.