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Originally Posted by Itse
Hmm? Source please? Isn't the Clinton foundation set up in NYC?
(Also, HER fund? It's Bill's fund primarily. He set it up and does most the fundraising.)
And what hidden generous withdrawals? And if they're non-accountable, how do you know about them?
Plus again, the Clinton foundation has been looked into many times, and no problems have been found with the way they use money. If something had been found, we'd never hear the end of it.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/30/us...tion.html?_r=0
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...ticle30845665/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...18e_story.html
The point is this family including Bill came into power with less then a net worth of a million and are worth hundreds of millions of dollars. That doesn't come from speeches. Public service to wealth. It's coming to light that money laundering was occurring in Canada based on our laws.
I think I pointed out my question about wealth and tax evasion within the law to public service.
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Originally Posted by Itse
Everyone who cared heard the debate, and that's why they're saying it's a ridiculous claim. Trumps incoherent rambling and ranting doesn't magically start to make sense if you change the mic.
It's not a "claim", it's a fact he admits himself. Really kind of hard to see much spin here. It is what it is and people hate this behavior for a reason. Just because he can get away with it legally doesn't make it okay.
Btw, is every defense of Trump like something a 10-year old would say? "they started it", "everyone else is doing it". Just because he can technically get away with all the crap he does doesn't mean he'd make a good president.
I mean, he's not even a good con man, because he keeps getting caught and couldn't talk his way out of a paper bag. In fact the opposite is true, he constantly keeps making things worse for himself.
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I wasn't arguing his performance in the debate. Simply that the microphone had problems and his claim wasn't bunk; painted as such by the media. This was later refuted by the debate people in charge of this. The owners of mainstream media has been trying to formatively change the minds of the viewer base to their will. My question is who is conning the masses? This is the first time they have been outed to this degree. This is potentially even more relevant than this election.
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As was already discussed during the primary phase, based on what's publicly known about his fortune, if he had simply put all the money into funds that saw average winnings, he'd be far ahead financially compared to where he's now. That makes him at best below average businessman. How much below average is really the only question.
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Typical trump vitriol. We don't know. I am tempted to say that somebody who builds and creates things is of far more value then funds and goldman sachs returns and their duping of the society at large for the very few. While he is a below average businessman, please I don't want to defend him, that wall street has perverted and become one of the biggest cons on the planet usurping it's initial design which is to fund and reward people who invest in industry and business. Not micro trade, electro trade, pass laws forcing people to dump their retirement funds into 401k and RRSP.
What America needs is a leader focused on the people, the betterment of the country and is not beholden to corporations who seem to run the place. I don't think either of these candidates bring what is so badly needed.