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Old 10-02-2016, 12:23 AM   #452
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Media bias?
Half of the material against Trump is pulled straight off of his own twitter account.
While I agree with Delgar that Trump is not a loser in any traditional sense of the word, this point can't be emphasized enough. One of the biggest reasons Trump gets piled on so much is because he keeps bringing up all his failures, over and over and over. He's admitted pretty much everything he's been accused of, and then doubled down on them with continous public rants. And then gone to deny ever saying things he clearly publicly said.

There's just very little need to spin anything against him or make stuff up, and that's all on him.

Even Fox news started literally laughing out loud at the way he just keeps digging his own holes. He's just the easiest target ever for the media. That's why they treat him the way they do. Nothing to do with "establishment".

And now some people are raising his complete inability to get any respect from the media and the fact that he's universally loathed as a reason to vote for him. I'm sorry but that to me sounds like a pathetic excuse. I don't buy for a second that it's anything but a desperate attempt to rationalize voting for a candidate you just want to vote for no matter what.

It's quite telling that so many firmly historically conservative newspapers have taken a stand against him. I think far too little is talked about this, because it's one of the things that I think speaks the loudest about Trump. What ever you may think about the media, they're people who literally follow the elections for a living.

Just think about it for a second. The US is possibly more polarized between the two parties than it has ever been in it's history. And yet THIS is the time when conservative newspapers with 100+ years of never supporting a liberal are endorsing a Democrat. Not even a popular democrat, but one of the least liked democratic candidates in history. It's an amazingly extreme situation.

The other group of conservatives who are very unusually taking a stand against Trump? Other politicians. Or in other words, the other group besides media who follow elections professionally.

Oh, and for the "media bias". The times that Trump has done worst in the polls are
1) after the conventions
2) after the debate.

Common factor: lots of people getting a good, long, unedited look of Trump.

Trump is his own worst advocate. It's not the media.

The fact that Trump will get so many votes doesn't say much about Trump. It just proves the claim that the candidates and all the campaigning can only move the vote a few percentage points anymore.

Literally any conservative candidate would get about the same votes as Trump.

(And no, another Republican candidate wouldn't make a huge difference, because the partisanship goes both ways.)

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