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Originally Posted by TheAlpineOracle
The fact that the Jays invested heavily in Shapiro and Atkins (both with large experience managing small market teams), did next to nothing in the past off-season other than sign a few short term deals and didn't even negotiate with their two stars, fired their director of scounting, and are now investing heavily in another guy as VP of baseball operations makes it clear as day to anyone who doesn't want to bury their head in the sand as to what exactly is going to happen starting next year.
Maybe it's what's needed, but they are 100% cutting payroll and every single sign in the universe is pointing towards without even considering Rogers history of cheapness over the past 20 years as an owner.
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Big market teams hire small market GMs all the time - it's actually pretty common for anyone paying attention. The Dodgers poached Andrew Freidman from the Rays for the exact same role. And has anyone ever heard of a team in any sport poaching small market management because they want to downgrade to a small market team and need someone with experience doing that? It's insane. Why exactly is Shapiro leaving Cleveland in a lateral move in this ridiculous scenario? Shapiro was hired because he's a progressive executive and the Jays were run by a dinosaur who didn't use email.
The off-season stuff has been beaten to death. You seem like you'd be happier with one of the long term, big money deals signed this off-season when essentially all of those players are having awful years (in contracts where you are overpaying for immediate production) instead of Happ and Estrada who've been very productive.
Firing their director of scouting has absolutely nothing to do with payroll.
Investing heavily in Ben Cherington is somehow a sign payroll is going to decrease? I don't know where to even begin with that. You literally take any piece of information and somehow twist it to feed your ridiculous confirmation bias against Rogers. Please explain to me why Cherington, a guy who would easily be a top candidate for GM for a bunch of small market teams, is signing with Toronto knowing that ownership is going to slash the budget and they are going to operate as a small market team against the Yankees and Red Sox (especially given their young talent in addition to monstrous resources). It makes no logical sense, but somehow that's you spin things.