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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
He has a pretty point. It's possible the most overpaid "second contract player" in the league might actually be Dougie Hamilton, and most still anticipate him being a bargain in a few years.
Second contract players, regardless how proven, like Klingberg, Klefbom, Larsson, Ekblad, Tarasenko, Seguin, Tavares, Hall, OEL, Ennis, represent strong value relative to performance. About the only bad contracts given to players like in this age range are the Sbisa-type deals which make simply no sense to anyone with eyes.
Third/Fourth contracts are the real cap killer. Toews, Seabrook, Stamkos, Brown, Kessel, Giordano, Byfuglien, Chara, Boychuk, Subban, Voracek, Brouwer, Lucic, Eriksson. On a smaller scale we could even have avoided Bouma's bad deal if we gave him term instead of a bridge a few years back. Term on 23-29 players won't hurt you. Term on 30+ players is a death sentence.
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There are two problems with an argument like this.
1) You have made a list, with the implication that all of the players in the list have similar, or relatively equal value. Tarasenko may not be good value. Tavares is, because he has a nice low cap hit. Some of those players have cap hits under $5M. They are not comparables to Tarasenko's $7.5M and certainly do nothing to prove that overpaying Gaudreau would be okay.
2) Your list conveniently ignores other 2nd contracts that aren't good value. Contracts like Brodin, Eberle, RNH and others.
I'll say it again: ALL overpayments will contribute to cap problems. Being a 2nd contract, and a player being 23 years old, doesn't magically exempt them from that.
Also, for the love of god, let the Brouwer thing go already. You are going full Ricardodw on this. And you never go full Ricardodw.