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Old 09-09-2016, 01:12 PM   #11338
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It's definitely not solely that but it can't be discounted how much more comfortable it makes people to give a white guy control again. It doesn't need every label on it whether that be racist, bigot, misogynistic, or plain old stupidity. Simple people take comfort in simple things, and going back to having a strong man run the country is as simple as it gets. The policy (of which he has next to none) is irrelevant, it's the symbol that matters.
No, I'm not discounting it at all. That campaign is a tire fire of racism and ridiculousness. I'm just saying there are reasons that some of his message resonated, particularly early on (and less so now since he doesn't seem to talk about it anymore) with people that aren't just racists or will vote Red no matter what.

It's a shame in a way, because there are some things he brought up which I feel are legitimate. In no way was he capable of bringing about a solution to any of them, but still. However, because he's such a rampaging blowhard, all that stuff is out the window now and who can ever bring it up again without being lumped in with the disaster that is this Republican election cycle?

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I don't disagree with what you are saying, but suggesting Trump is resonating because he is the champion of the people in fighting an imbalanced and corrupt system is also dishonest. Trump's actions show this is a false narrative. No one can honestly believe that he is making points with people because he can understand the plight of the down-trodden. Trump is one of those that has done the down trodding. Surely even the most brainless of rubes can see that? So there must be something else. The other option is... ?

No, it's not dishonest because it actually happened. He wasn't going to fix it, and was probably guilty in aiding and abetting that very system, but that was his message in part, and a good portion of people liked him because if it. What do you think the entire "he's an outsider and not corrupt" segment of his support is referring to? I mean, they're wrong, but it's legitimately a reason for some of his support.
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