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Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
Treliving is a ****ing moron if he thinks he can get Johnny at 6.5 for term... Remember when it was Johnny's fault for the hold out because Calgary paid Monahan and therefore have already offered Johnny good money? Maybe I wasn't wrong after all?
He's our best player. Face of the franchise. Why would you insult him with low ball offers? If you don't want to pay him what he's worth, trade him to somebody who will. This is starting to get embarrassing.
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Yes it is.
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Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
I'm not ignoring anything. I'm just surprised at how much his RFA years were worth. Some people here think Johnny's are worth less than 5 lol. Malkin's a great player, but he's not 2x better than the guy who just finished 6th in scoring, art ross or not.
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If you are going to come here and flog the case of your client, at least post with some honour and respect of others. I never said his RFA years were worth less than $5m, I said a
bridge deal (of 2 or 3 years) would be less than $5m. No player that I can recall has ever gotten a post-ELC bridge deal of more than $5m. Subban is probably the last good comparable.
That is not the same as saying the RFA years are worth less than $5m per, if he signs a long-term deal. Here is my last post showing numbers:
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Good article. Comparing all those contracts side by side adds great context.
Given the choice, would you rather have Ekblad or Tarasenko? I have said in the past that I think Tarasenko is overpaid. When you put him side by side with Ekblad, it seems pretty obvious. I think Ekblad's contract is warranted. For me, it's no contest who I would rather have. I think STL will regret that contract and I don't ever want to see the Flames in the position that they regret Johnny's contract.
For me, Johnny's contract should be a bit less than Ekblad's for 2 reasons: hardware (Calder), and age - Ekblad doing what he has done as a teenager is pretty impressive. So maybe 1 or 2 hundred K less for those reasons.
Then there is the issue of one less year of UFA. Haynes values that at $375k. That is probably about right. Let's say $250k to be conservative.
So let's take Ekblad's contract, and factor in those things. Call it $100k for the first two items, and $250k for the extra RFA year and you get:
8 x $7.15M (7.5 - 0.25 - 0.1)
To me, that sounds just about right, and sounds like about what Tarasenko should have gotten. It also puts him higher than Monahan and Forsberg but lower than Ekblad, which also sounds about right
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Suggesting an 8 yr deal of $7.15m implies RFA years likely worth something in the neighbourhood of $6m per.
You constantly whine that people attack you, or don't read your posts, or throw up strawman arguments, but it is you that seems to be doing those things all the time.
If you would like to present arguments in a polite manner, then by all means, present away and flog your agency's position. But if you're going to try and mis-represent others, then just stop.
And if you're going to call Treliving a ####ing moron, then GTFO.