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Originally Posted by Mister Yamoto
Actually the Flames could only wish to be average. They are not even close. In quality and quantity.
990 players played at least one game in the NHL last season. 19 of them were developed by the Flames AHL affiliate. That's less than 2%.
Giordano, Backlund, Brodie, Granlund, Baertschi, Ferland, Jooris, Prust, Bouma, Nystrom, Wotherspoon, Seiloff, Ramage, Agostino, Kylington, Poirier, Kulak, McElhinney and Ortio. Only Giordano was in the top 100 in scoring and 6 or 7 of these guys likely will not be in the league this year.
To put that into perspective, 17 Hitmen alumni played in the league last year. So, if you are on the Hitmen, you are almost as likely to go into the NHL as a player in Stockton is. And you are more likely to be an impact player.
As for Pronmans 2016 prospect rankings it will be very interesting to have a look in 5 years. I like Nashville (10), Detroit (18) and San Jose (24). I know almost nothing about their prospects but I do know that those teams have a proven reputation for graduating players from their AHL team into the NHL. I'm really starting to think that if you exclude the really high end players, development is even more important than drafting.
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Ok, but "playing at least 1 game in the NHL last season" is not exactly a metric for showing developmental success. Teams with a large number of injuries will shoot way up that list. It doesn't show the impact of those players. Further, one season is a small sample size, and as I mentioned in my post, the bulk of prospects drafted in the post-Sutter era are just getting to the point where they will be making the jump. None of us will argue that drafting and especially development pre-2010 was anything but atrocious.
Furthermore, how far is 2% off of league average? Given the Flames are 1 of 30 teams, league average would appear to be about 3%, no? Further, a chunk of the players who played in the NHL last season never played for their AHL affiliate (jumped straight from junior, college, or Europe), so we're not looking at 900 players; likely much less than that. So I'm still betting the Flames are right at league average, even using your flawed metric.
How about, of players who have played at least 50 NHL games and were drafted after 2010, and have played at least 10 games for the AHL affiliate of the team that drafted them, how many were developed by the Flames?