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CaptainCrunch · 08-26-2016, 11:05 AM

So f$$king stupid.

Keep what peace, there are very few country versus country conflicts anymore, and the main conflicts are happening between NATO nations and the Russians.

At the end of the day, the places where they're sending peacekeepers are based around ethnic, or religious lines, and peace keeping isn't going to do any good because you're facing off against irregulars on one side and governments on the other or other irregulars on the other side.

On top of that, lets say that its a government versus and insurgence rule, and the government is monstrous. IS Canada going to march in to help try to keep some unkeepable peace in Syria with Assad still ruling?

And frankly these groups are far more vicious and morally vacant then any nation versus nation conflict.

Most veterans are already stating this is a bad idea because frankly the UN is terrible at defining rules of engagements so the peace keepers usually have to stand by and watch atrocities happen.

What does Trudeau think is going to happen, that Canada is going to show up in the blue berets in white painted jeeps and stand bravely between two warring ethnic groups and say "please stop fighting" and its going to make a damn lick of difference? Instead what's going to happen is both groups are going to up the ante because the UN is weak with poor ROE, and on top of that both groups will start murdering peacekeepers.

Add to that the human costs, try making some soldier stand by and wait for a response from the UN when civilian's are being slaughtered and not being able to do anything and then having to live with it.

In this day and age of insurgents and religious groups and ethnic groups killing for the sake of killing, Peace keeping is only going to work if it changes to the term peace enforcement.

That means a ironclad set of ROE for the troops in the field, heavy weapons and air support and either physically displacing civillians to safe zones that are heavily defended, or cleaning out the offenders, or physically finding a way to separate them and putting heavy weapons and special forces on the ground and basically saying, stop fighting or we start killing you all.

Its just a dumba$$ strategy to me that makes little and no sense and harkens back to the 70's when the 201? are a different world.

08-26-2016, 11:05 AM	#143
CaptainCrunch Norm! Join Date: Jun 2002 Exp:	So f$$king stupid. Keep what peace, there are very few country versus country conflicts anymore, and the main conflicts are happening between NATO nations and the Russians. At the end of the day, the places where they're sending peacekeepers are based around ethnic, or religious lines, and peace keeping isn't going to do any good because you're facing off against irregulars on one side and governments on the other or other irregulars on the other side. On top of that, lets say that its a government versus and insurgence rule, and the government is monstrous. IS Canada going to march in to help try to keep some unkeepable peace in Syria with Assad still ruling? And frankly these groups are far more vicious and morally vacant then any nation versus nation conflict. Most veterans are already stating this is a bad idea because frankly the UN is terrible at defining rules of engagements so the peace keepers usually have to stand by and watch atrocities happen. What does Trudeau think is going to happen, that Canada is going to show up in the blue berets in white painted jeeps and stand bravely between two warring ethnic groups and say "please stop fighting" and its going to make a damn lick of difference? Instead what's going to happen is both groups are going to up the ante because the UN is weak with poor ROE, and on top of that both groups will start murdering peacekeepers. Add to that the human costs, try making some soldier stand by and wait for a response from the UN when civilian's are being slaughtered and not being able to do anything and then having to live with it. In this day and age of insurgents and religious groups and ethnic groups killing for the sake of killing, Peace keeping is only going to work if it changes to the term peace enforcement. That means a ironclad set of ROE for the troops in the field, heavy weapons and air support and either physically displacing civillians to safe zones that are heavily defended, or cleaning out the offenders, or physically finding a way to separate them and putting heavy weapons and special forces on the ground and basically saying, stop fighting or we start killing you all. Its just a dumba$$ strategy to me that makes little and no sense and harkens back to the 70's when the 201? are a different world. __________________ My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings; Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!