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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Way to label about 700 million men misogynistic. I know that's your Favorite word to use but that's simply not true.
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I live about 2 km away from Canada's largest nude beach. It is truly one of the few places in Canada where clothes-free behaviour is culturally ingrained. To be honest, as an Alberta, I was a little wary of the beach, but it is beautiful, and now my wife and I frequent it in the evening. Much of what goes on at the beach is pretty tame. There is a strong ethic of privacy, and people who take out cameras and attempt to take pictures - whether they are of the view or the beach - are quickly called out by regular beach-goers.
Yes, there is a little bit too much alcohol and drug consumption for my liking, but overall Wreck Beach is probably one of the best living examples of how a liberal society works at its best. People have their autonomy, but they use it to form communities that look out for the constituent members.
Anyway, there is a fairly regular occurrence - particularly on busy days - of Muslim men coming down to the beach, staying clothed, and uncomfortably gawking at topless or naked women. They are brazen, sometimes sitting or standing less than 2 or 3 meters from their targets. They freely take pictures, and when challenged become very aggressive, and one two occasions, there have been fisticuffs - once between a group of very gay, muscular men and a very uncomfortable group of Muslim men.
It's really hard to say there is not a misogyny problem in Islam, generally. It's also entirely wrong to solve this problem by taking it out on Muslim women.
EDIT: Total ramble.