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Sorry, but how is this cherry picking?
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Sorry, I was apparently unclear. I wasn't referring to you cherry picking, I meant the wahhabists are doing a lot of cherry picking on what "living as the prophet" means. You know, soccer is forbidden but internet is okay?
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Lets hope the dropping of tenets that conflict with modern secular life continues in a mass scale.
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Yup. And I think it probably will. I think it's inevitable that there will be a major backlash against fundamentalist movements and thinking. Plus just a lot of people clearly wanting to identify as "not THOSE people" for various reasons.
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That's too bad for them. Separation of church and state comes right from the words of the central prophet himself in the Bible.
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This is kind of my point. Religious people don't often think of religion like atheists do
They're much less logical about it.
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That's not saying anything about your claim. It only says that the list of causes can be applicable across religions or in the secular realm
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Okay, I'll take that and not argue it further. It's a throwaway line in a text which is ultimately about something else. Clearly I can't back my view as well as I thought I could. (I'm pretty sure the research exists, but it's on me to dig it up... Which I'm not going to actively do. But if I run into it etc.)
For the record, that does not mean that I accept the opposite to be any more true. At best I'll take "debatable".