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Originally Posted by Itse
It was mentioned before in the article Thor linked that I quoted.
Islam is a religion. It's a much more complex thing than ideology. In fact, within Islam you can have two completely contradicting ideologies.
Islamism is an ideology that Islam should rule the society. They're as much a political movement as they are a religious one. Secular Muslims are their polar opposite.
To generalize, if you use problems of Islamism as representative of all of Islam, you are doing exactly what the secular Muslims are begging you don't do. You are essentially wiping moderate, secular Muslims completely out of sight, as if they don't even exist.
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But this is taking the stance that it's only Islamists that are the problem. Clearly they are, even if they're non violent, just as any religious right supporter in the US who wanted to impose "christian values" on the nation would be a problem.
Islamists get their ideas from somewhere and it's not thin air. The Quran and the hadiths supply their ideology and as a result criticizing the source of those ideas is perfectly game.
No one here is doing a blanket condemnation, but if you think it's wrong to criticize the ####ty components of Islam, just as we'd criticize the ####ty components of Christianity, then we'll never be on the same page.