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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

You don't think the fear of media outrage has chilled public dialog on a whole range of issues?

No. Let's start with the obvious, Donald Trump is a candidate for POTUS.

That whole narrative of "chilled public dialog" is IMO a completely false narrative based on the idea of a supposed better alternative that has never existed.

What we have now is actual debate over racism, sexism, classism, ableism and so and and so forth. All the same bigoted arguments are still very much around. Sexism and racism, both overt and casual, is still rampant in the media, both in news and in entertainment.

The opposing voices that are now being heard very loudly have not silenced the other voices out of existence. Just some of them.

There might not be that much room for nuanced narratives in the mainstream media, but then again I'm not sure there is a high demand for it anymore. Mainstream media is more and more simply fodder for social media, which is where the actual discussions happen.

What do you think the range of debate on native issues are for a public figure in Canada today?

Sorry, I really don't know enough about this to have a conversation about it.

That's exactly where liberalism and leftism part ways. Liberalism values the widest scope of debate, with the largest number of options and arguments and most wide-ranging and rigorous discussion. The shibboleths and taboos of the left choke off that debate. We live in a society today where accusations of bigotry are the new scarlet letter.

I don't think labeling left = SJW's is at all fair, and all that kind of labeling does is give the SJW's more power than they deserve, and it marginalizes the people on the left who actually have their s*** together.

While the unfortunate phenomenon does exist that the SJW:s can destroy careers and create a threatening atmosphere for discussion, this phenomenon is mostly contained within certain bubbles. You can even create a whole career out of simply taking a contrarian view to anything the SJW's want, which I think very clearly shows that the phenomenon of "chilling debate" is vastly overstated.

In fact I would say the opposite is true. Public discussion is very heated and right now and the number of topics under discussion is huge. Possibly even comparable to the situation in the 60's and 70's.