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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
There is not much to debate here, really. Liberalism fails to deal with Islam because it is based on liberal values, while Islam is based on interpretation of religious beliefs. The more radical the interpretation, the more futile and pointless is Liberalism's effort to confront it. Side effect is Liberalism's tendency to appease and accommodate the most intolerant and illiberal.
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Well, actually I would say that there isn't much debate because people like you are trying to enter a conversation so far removed from reality that there isn't anything to talk about.
1) "Liberalism" is too wide a phrase and doesn't really mean anything.
2) The people in this thread who tend to use words such as "liberals" tend to mean "those people who are dumb, so either you're dumb or you're not the people I mean".
3) There is no problem with Islam in general, at least not ones that western non-muslims should or could do anything about.
4) The best actual policies (in the sense that they are proven to work by good research) in dealing with radical islamism have so far been clearly the most liberal options.
So actually the topic should be
"Relative humanism: why is it so effective in countering extremist violence, even though some people strongly believe it can not possibly work".