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I'm going to have to respond really quickly so apologies for the haste

Originally Posted by MattyC

How can that be? Again, at it's most basic principal, the "government funded community center" is there to cater to all members of the community regardless of background, and the rules (or morality) of said institution should be flowing with the natural growth and changes f morals in the community.

A government funded community center may be able to satisfy the community's psychosocial needs. It might not, though - when did you last visit your community centre? Is it packed with people? Do you walk in and know everyone there?

For many communities, the local church is basically the community's lodestone even though it fulfils no government roles, which is why this is a misinterpretation of what was being suggested:

it should not be centre of a community that is made of people from many different backgrounds. This is pretty much the basis of separation of church and state.

No one is suggesting that the church, synagogue and / or mosque should govern.

And, if we're talking a future place, how are you going to get people who have renounced any sort of theist ideas?

That's part of the problem we're talking about. I'm an agnostic (an atheist by some people's definitions). The decline of religion has many good effects, but we can't be blind to some of the voids left, which also lead to significant social problems.

Our moral tribe already is a "government funded community centre". We follow the laws and morality of Canada which are voted on people we elect to vote on them. These morals are being ever adapted to new knowledge. It may be slow, but it's certainly a lot faster than the movement of religious morals.

First, this last sentence says a lot about your sense of morality as a progressive - that it's inherently a good thing for morality to be adapted "a lot faster", and in fact the slow march of Canadian law isn't fast enough for you.

Second, this is idealistic and doesn't really describe people. Almost no one has a moral code derived from Canada's laws. Most people don't even know what's in them, and there's a significant chunk of the population that think how our criminal law is applied (for example) doesn't meet their moral expectations. I'm not even going to get into tax laws. No, most people get their moral code elsewhere - if you're religious, it comes from your religious tradition as tempered by the community you belong to, if you're not, more and more it comes from your political ideology. The liberals are good, our platform is right and virtuous, the conservatives are morally bankrupt, or vice versa.

Both of these forms of moral tribalism cause problems, but given that at least in Canada the effect of moral tribalism in the religious sense is pretty impotent except to the extent it intrudes into politics (which it shouldn't), the latter is arguably more dangerous right now because of the polarization it creates. Admittedly, we're nowhere near the level of discord seen south of the border. Yet.