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Originally Posted by peter12
What we really discussing here is this: is a community better served with mosque, cathedral or church, or government-funded foundation at its centre? This is an important question, and distinctions can be made between all three.
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Isn't the answer to this obvous? I know a lot of people feel the government is a boogyman, but at it's most basic principal, it is a representive of the community.
The other three things you mentioned are exclusive organizations that tell lies to their children and make them believe in fairytales to try and guide their morality instead of teaching them what is really right and what is really wrong. It's this is wrong/right because God/Allah/Whatever said it is. And that entity is all-powerful and all-knowing and so you can never question their word.
Assuming you believe the church is the best option, what happens when a Muslim family moves to town, and their child is exluded due to their differences? The church doesn't necessarily teach these things (or shouldn't), but the very idea that thuis kid belongs to a different "club" than you do, one that your parents might tell you is weird and dangerous, has made that kid an outcast long before he showed up.
We have grown in different pockets of the world, with different environments and growth conditions, but now we are all connected. There is no way to change it, there's no way to go back. We need to decide what is and isn't okay under one code of morality. How can we unite that? Who knows, but it's not going to happen under one religion. Religion, in it's traditional forms, is dead. These people tearing through the ME and blowing up random innocent people are doing so because they feel their beliefs being left behind by everyone else. They're trying to keep their faith alive and have reached the desperation point. To be frank, it'll will probably happen (probably on a much smaller scale) in the US and other parts of the religious west when people start wanting to take the word "God" out of official documents, off money, etc...