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Old 08-10-2016, 12:42 PM   #192
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction View Post
This is actually really significant. How they (Turkey) can say it doesn't go against NATO is ridiculous. They just signed an intelligence agreement with NATOs biggest adversary, and being a NATO member themselves, they are going to have access to all kinds of NATO intelligence. They need to be cut off by NATO if they aren't already.

Turkey is strategically important for NATO, but they are also the biggest weakness given their instability and inability to control their borders (not to mention history of war, colonization and occupation against other NATO countries). Some people in Europe will always have trouble accepting Turkey for that reason, whether it is fair or not.

I wonder if NATO starts wooing Ukraine again. IMO, Russia signing this agreement with Turkey is no different than NATO going into Ukraine.
Nato will go into full freak out mode, they have to view Turkey with a lot of suspicion now, especially in terms of intelligence leaks.

They really can't kick Turkey out because it would basically put the entire black sea into Russian hands, it would make resupply and access to states like the Ukraine really tough if the balloon ever drops. Russia would be able to cut off the Ukraine from sea borne assets, Nato would lose a tremendous amount of air stike power and convienience, and Russia would no longer need to worry about their Southern Flank, they could concentrate on one powerful Western push. The imbalances of forces between NATO and Russia in terms of Eastern Europe would be significantly multiplied on the Russian side as they have three army groups in Western Russia
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