[CaptainCrunch]

You know, I've been thinking about it with the Jack Nicholson Joker and the Ledger Joker and the Comic Joker and even the Leto Joker and how distinctly different they are.

I mean frankly the Nicholson Joker had so much glee in what he was doing. He was what happens when you stab a psychopath in the back and then set him out on society. In that movie, the Joker was clearly out for revenge, but his personality was so unchecked that it easily spread to a sense of eager vengence against society as a whole. But the origin in the movie made sense because it took a vain killer and broke him and then rebuilt him as the Joker.

With Ledger's Joker he's so completely different, I almost think an origin story for him would ruin him. He's almost like a shark, the water looks calm on the surface, but he's always below it, spreading chaos and when he reveals himself its huge and it grand. But there's a grim purpose to it as well, which explains why he kept changing the stories about how he got his scares. If the truth ever came out about how he got his scars it would literally wreck the mask that the character is wearing. Because I firmly believe that in the end the Ledger Joker behind the mask and claiming that he was an anarchist and a fan of randomness was the most rational person in that movie.

Everything to him was an experiment in human behavior. planting the bombs on the boats. Putting Dent and Dawes in desperate locations, it was almost like he was a sociologist gone mad.

I always thought that while the Nicholson Joker was driven mad and a street thug who probably started in crime at a very young age, that the Ledger Joker came from a well off well balanced family, went to college and took some kind of applied science course and was entirely normal. I then had the theory that he was exposed to the worst of humanity and he broke. Maybe he was a war veteran who saw how uncaring and crazed humanity was and when he got home, broken he wanted to prove to the world that humanity was inherently vile and bad. But he was also a brilliant strategist as well and he could predict how people would react and he used that, ad to that, that he's a human version of a shark, and the dark mirror to Batman's madness and Ledger's Joker is an amazing character, and everyone who wonders about his origins often knowing that we will never ever know, tends to create their own profile of him.

With the Leto Joker, I'm not sure at all. but the Tattoo's almost make me think that there's an element of a gang up bringing, but other then that there's almost a hope that the Joker really only appears when the Batman is active. He's the evil random response to Batman's desire for order and justice.

But I believe that unlike most other villains, we shouldn't want the true origins of the Joker. With the Penquin and the Riddler and the other main batman villains, giving an origin explains why they do the things they do. With Joker because his character is so rational in his irrationality that giving a justification for this behavior threatens to narrow and cage the Joker, instead of letting him be completely random in his planned existence.