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Old 08-05-2016, 04:43 PM   #9801
Lanny_McDonald
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague View Post
First, if that's actually your view, that it's okay to just beat people up to shut them up because you think they're annoying, that says nothing good about you.

Second, it's not a bar. It's a university campus. Presumably the whole point of a university is to disprove bad ideas by explaining why they're bad ideas and offering better ones. In other words, #2.

God this is stupid.
Listen, I will defend anyone on campus who wants to have an honest rhetorical debate. If they want to truly discuss issues on their merit and do so in an honest way, I welcome that in my classroom. But when some obnoxious little prick comes in and does nothing but make inflammatory comments under the guise of rhetorical battle, that's where I draw the line. This Yiannopoulos character is the latter. He pushes the limits until people want to take him outside and beat the #### out of him. At that point, what learning opportunity is left? None. This piece of human refuse is the antithesis of liberal education and has no reason to be on a campus except to sell tickets by being inflammatory. He gets to leave when the night is over, mean while the school has to deal with animus he leaves behind. This guy doesn't care about free speech, he abuses the right.

On Harris, Aslan is not alone in thinking Harris is an agent provocateur when it comes to rhetoric and his views on Islam.

http://www.salon.com/2013/03/30/dawk..._islamophobia/

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opi...413618256.html

http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-pro...lim-hate-video

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/19/sam_...enagers_views/


http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/..._reality_islam

http://freethoughtblogs.com/taslima/...s-not-neutral/

https://www.samharris.org/blog/item/...s-of-discourse

http://www.seattleglobalist.com/2015...-seattle/35727

I am still a very large fan of Harris. I just think he needs to tone down his rhetoric because what he says has consequences for many people in that religion, as outlined in the last article. Still, he is a great speaker and a great thinker, just with a few bad habits (we all have some bad habits).

We are going to have to disagree on Harris and Aslan. As you can see from Chomsky's interactions with Harris there is a level of distrust for him. I can tell you from experience it is his hubris that makes other academics take this position. PM me if you want more details.
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