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Old 08-04-2016, 11:27 AM   #185
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Originally Posted by CliffFletcher View Post
It's a shame. I've been there twice, spending 5 weeks there altogether. Visited every region except the far east. Beautiful country. Remarkably hospitable people. Great food. So much history.

We can't blame this on colonialism. Or on Iraq or Bush. Or poverty. The Turkish people have turned their back on modernity and liberalism. We really need to figure out why Islamic societies seem incompatible with liberal social and economic values.
Have you ever read The Impossible State? Hallaq does a pretty job of outlining why Islam and the modern liberal state are incompatible. He's a little too nostalgic for traditional Islam for my tastes, but it's a good breakdown nonetheless.

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