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Old 08-04-2016, 10:47 AM   #72
GranteedEV
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Originally Posted by ricardodw View Post
Again things we just don't know......

How did Columbus not trade down with Edmonton
They were about to. Until Edmonton realized Columbus was taking Dubois one way or the other, and decided they didn't need to give up an asset.

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Calgary to get a 2nd round pick
Because then

Calgary - Puljujarvi
Edmonton - Defenseman
Vancouver - Dubois

happens.

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I do not think that the consensus TSN , Central scouting lists (or CP lists) match up all that closely with the professional teams lists.

The only time that you see what the NHL teams are actually thinking is when they make the actual draft picks.
There are 30, soon to be 31 different teams. Each one has its own list. One team might take one player 10 / 10 times at a given spot, another team might never take that same player twenty spots down. And positional need does factor in sometimes.

There is no such thing as predicting draft order, only probability, which the most common occurrences between CSS and media (TSN / FC / RLR), and other lists shine some light on, non-definitively.

It's safe to say that Bennett vs Draisaitl for example is an interesting comparision of tradeoffs. On one end you had a kid, a 17 year old for his draft year, with a lot of physical development left to go, I think he weighed in at around 180 lbs at the time, whereas for his frame you would expect a playing weight closer to 200, 205 lbs, with a good balance between goal scoring and playmaking, with an emphasis on speed. On the other hand you had another kid, an 18 year old for his same draft year, who had the physical development close to completion, already weighing in around 210 lbs, with a skew more towards playmaking. Speed, particularly acceleration, was the major area of concern / development.

Talent-wise, these players were flat out impossible to compare. It's apples and oranges. They're not the same age, they're not at the same stage of physical development, they're not at the same stage of skating development. You watch them play and they have different advantages and disadvantages that they apply at the point, which may change in the future.

Really, all it boils down to is what an individual team wants. But in general, when a younger, less developed player, especially in a highly scouted league like CHL, is ranked higher across every board, as Bennett was to Draisaitl, it's usually a sign that long-term, that player is a higher-upside prospect. Older players are closer to their plateau - they may be easier to project and thus less risky. Some scouts prefer lower risk over higher upside. This is an individual preference, there is no right answer. For me, when I can't differentiate usefully in things like hockey sense, IQ, and work ethic, I do look at age, physical room-for-growth and prefer the less developed player.

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