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Old 08-04-2016, 09:26 AM   #183
CliffFletcher
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It's crazy. I remember when I went to Turkey and a few locals I talked to bragged and were proud that they were a "western secular Islamic" country and they really tried to separate themselves from the religious wing nuts. Looking back now, it seems it may have been more insecurity than confidence.
Yeah, the Turks I met were always quick to denounce their 'backwards' fellow Turks in the interior. I think one of the problems is the secularized Turks in the cities and the coasts have European birth rates, while the conservatives have been cranking out three to five kids a family. The Muslim parts of the world are about the only countries that haven't seen big drops in birth rates in the last 50 years. That's a huge problem.
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